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Ok Ray here is the locomotive from the former Homestead Steel works site.

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Been through that mall so many times, never seen that Porter. The unit should be Porter model: DE-35 (Diesel Electric -35-Tons); 30 inch gauge; built for Carnegie-Illinois Steel Corp. (U S Steel) Homestead Works in 1944.

here's an interesting locomotive-i believe it was a trolley type-it had two electric motors which drove the large gear (the stators and armatures and casing top-halves are missing-the bottom-halves of the cases are visible on top). the large gear then drove a transverse shaft (through the gear that can be seen in the side views, under the frame and between the wheels) with counter-weights and crankpins on each side. the crankpins then in turn drove the axles and wheels through siderods (missing). (check out the crankpins set at 90 degrees between sides)

i believe this unit was original to the operation. stay tuned for an upcoming post on the rest of the site.

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That's really neat, a jackshaft powered mining locomotive. I can't wait to see what comes next.

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Erik Novoa
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The crank pins being offset by 90 degrees is a carry over from steam locos. Ther term is quartering, and I think it is not exactly 90 degrees maybe on the order of 85.

The purpose was to smooth the force from steam pistons. And to keep the pistons from both being stopped on dead center and not being able to restart.

Wow I really didn't think any of these were left. The unit is turn of the century 1902-1910 more than likely. I will have to say that it was built by Baldwin-Westinghouse but not 100%. The hard thing to distinguish if the traction motors are original to that unit or if they have been replaced. The way the traction motor housings are split at a 45 degree angle will at least help me narrow it down. Not many manufactures split the casings like that.

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Looking at these pics again I can make out where a round builders plate was with two screw holes. Now I am leaning towards Baldwin for sure. One thing interesting about the traction motors is that they are bolted to the frame as where almost all the traction motors are axle hung. That unit is really geared down for some reason. I assume it was 24 or18" gauge. Good stuff John

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I don't think it is a Baldwin it is something else. John what do think it is?

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i have no idea mike.

i'll find out this week.

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i think its a florey

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Its not heist like enough to be a Flory locomotive

The pic say's it all. FLORY for shore. I agree.

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I think this locomotive may be a Vulcan As they used round builders plates on their locomotives Baldwin in all the instances I have seen used 3x11 inch rectangal plates on mining locomotives